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Post by StrykerX2K on May 26, 2006 15:43:47 GMT -5
I already have my tickets for tonight at 715pm, although the reviews have been less than stellar, I am still excited about seeing this, as Beast is finally in the movie as is Angel...so I am really happy to see that!
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Post by Gunman_sr5 on May 26, 2006 15:59:26 GMT -5
Was going to go tonight, but Kyla has an infected tooth. May be able to go latter this weekend.
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Post by Bear on May 26, 2006 17:24:24 GMT -5
Never saw the first 2, and don't care to see this one either.
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Post by Jo'Roq on May 26, 2006 18:16:36 GMT -5
I'll be going sometime this weekend. Rebekkah isn't since she and the girls are running off to New Mexico again for a couple weeks starting tomorrow.
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Post by Destro on May 26, 2006 19:51:05 GMT -5
I saw it last night at midnight. It was..eh. From best to worst, I would rank the three: 2,1,3. It wasn't horrible, but some of the dialog and special effects were a bit cheesy and the plot was much weaker than those of the first two. I did enjoy seeing beast and juggernaut, though. I'd give it 2.5 outta 5.
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Post by metafeather on May 27, 2006 0:27:48 GMT -5
see i must disagree with you destro. i am a life long x-men addict and i think it was the best out of the 3 movies. the new characters were done very well, except for some of the uneeded ones(arclight). the plot really had the feel of the human/mutant hatred going on much more than the other 2. Also i loved that in certain scenes they really add things in for the fans, but the scene is not ruined by it. Also i heard alot of people say it wasnt enough liek the comics, and it is not like the normal marvel universe x-men(the 616 world for marvel fans) but it does have alot in common witht he current ultimate x-men run, which is a very good comic. anyway im gonna rate the movies in order of 3,2,1 and give this movie a 5 out of 5, if not only for the fact that my liver almost came out of my nose i laughed so hard durning a certain scen that i dont wish to ruin for anyone
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Post by Destro on May 27, 2006 0:40:49 GMT -5
see i must disagree with you destro. i am a life long x-men addict and i think it was the best out of the 3 movies. the new characters were done very well, except for some of the uneeded ones(arclight). the plot really had the feel of the human/mutant hatred going on much more than the other 2. Also i loved that in certain scenes they really add things in for the fans, but the scene is not ruined by it. Also i heard alot of people say it wasnt enough liek the comics, and it is not like the normal marvel universe x-men(the 616 world for marvel fans) but it does have alot in common witht he current ultimate x-men run, which is a very good comic. anyway im gonna rate the movies in order of 3,2,1 and give this movie a 5 out of 5, if not only for the fact that my liver almost came out of my nose i laughed so hard durning a certain scen that i dont wish to ruin for anyone It just didn't flow every well at all, and the new characters, for the most part, just seemed to be there to say that they were there. It did have more of the "mutant hatred" aspect though. The movie simply lacked heart, imo; too much could've been delved into further; angel's background, the political issues involving "curing" a "mutation" (anything coming to mind?). It could've been so much better.
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Post by StrykerX2K on May 27, 2006 7:35:24 GMT -5
I also saw it last night. I actually rather enjoyed it. Since they really couldn't get super involved in the whole Phoenix thing, I think it was a great route to be able to do it in the short span they did. It is like basically they started out with just the Dark Phoenix business.
I thought everything was done well, except some of the cheesy "Bush-esque" dialog about giving them a war.
Beast was great, Angel was awesome, but under used. Juggernaut and Kitty Pryde were great! I liked the end, because it was exactly what I expected with Magneto. I was just surprised at some of the death choices....
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Post by metafeather on May 27, 2006 11:54:18 GMT -5
see i must disagree with you destro. i am a life long x-men addict and i think it was the best out of the 3 movies. the new characters were done very well, except for some of the uneeded ones(arclight). the plot really had the feel of the human/mutant hatred going on much more than the other 2. Also i loved that in certain scenes they really add things in for the fans, but the scene is not ruined by it. Also i heard alot of people say it wasnt enough liek the comics, and it is not like the normal marvel universe x-men(the 616 world for marvel fans) but it does have alot in common witht he current ultimate x-men run, which is a very good comic. anyway im gonna rate the movies in order of 3,2,1 and give this movie a 5 out of 5, if not only for the fact that my liver almost came out of my nose i laughed so hard durning a certain scen that i dont wish to ruin for anyone It just didn't flow every well at all, and the new characters, for the most part, just seemed to be there to say that they were there. It did have more of the "mutant hatred" aspect though. The movie simply lacked heart, imo; too much could've been delved into further; angel's background, the political issues involving "curing" a "mutation" (anything coming to mind?). It could've been so much better. see on the point of the of the new character just being thier i thought every one of them was put in for a reason. say multiple man. he only did one thing, but the one this was a great use of his power and gave him reason. and yes angel could have been used more, but he didnt need to be. he flew and that is pretty much what he does in the comics, except they could have played up the rich boy aspect alittle more and had him throw his money around
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Post by Destro on May 27, 2006 13:33:52 GMT -5
It just didn't flow every well at all, and the new characters, for the most part, just seemed to be there to say that they were there. It did have more of the "mutant hatred" aspect though. The movie simply lacked heart, imo; too much could've been delved into further; angel's background, the political issues involving "curing" a "mutation" (anything coming to mind?). It could've been so much better. see on the point of the of the new character just being thier i thought every one of them was put in for a reason. say multiple man. he only did one thing, but the one this was a great use of his power and gave him reason. and yes angel could have been used more, but he didnt need to be. he flew and that is pretty much what he does in the comics, except they could have played up the rich boy aspect alittle more and had him throw his money around I think they could've/should've delved into the relationship between angel and his father a little more; it was obvious what was going on, but, like the rest of the movie, depth was needed.
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Post by metafeather on May 27, 2006 23:44:25 GMT -5
see on the point of the of the new character just being thier i thought every one of them was put in for a reason. say multiple man. he only did one thing, but the one this was a great use of his power and gave him reason. and yes angel could have been used more, but he didnt need to be. he flew and that is pretty much what he does in the comics, except they could have played up the rich boy aspect alittle more and had him throw his money around I think they could've/should've delved into the relationship between angel and his father a little more; it was obvious what was going on, but, like the rest of the movie, depth was needed. i do agree that more into detail would have been nice. Yet Angel has never been the most interesting x-men character even to fans and i really wonder how him being in the movie more would have went over with the non-comic fan P.S. the girlfriend got home from europe yesterday so i went and saw it for a 2nd time today and plan on a 3rd this week with my nieghbor.....man im an addict
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Post by CkRtech on May 29, 2006 13:17:32 GMT -5
Well, the whole point of the movie was not to add new characters. Your cast gets way too big if they try to throw in more characters and develop them. I am a huge character development guy, but if you start adding so many that you break the bank - then the characters get in the way of the plot. Other X-men universe characters were added to supplement the plot and the teams. The focus was obviously going to remain on the core characters - and just about every item I could think about them touching on (regarding the main X-men team) was touched on.
X-3 was easily the most intense and exciting of the series. The fact that you truly did not know exactly what was going to happen next is where most of its push came from. This movie was intense! I felt pretty drained afterward considering all the events that we have to accept as an audience. I think many of these events affected us more than usual. The reason for this is because we are familiar with the characters. We are already attached to them.
I thought the movie was pretty thrilling and ...stressful. I was pretty wide-eyed when i came out of the film. It took a little while to calm down.
I honestly cannot say if this one was my favorite of the bunch, but I think it had the best drama and acting of the three.
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Post by Darthfather2005 on Jun 10, 2006 22:38:55 GMT -5
Man... I have to say X3 was pretty craptastic. I'm a long time X-men fan, and the movie really did not capture the X-men at all. It's kinda of like if you took the Characters, and threw them in a fragmented story, that was very far removed from the first two movies, not to mention the comics. I have not been this let down since the Phantom Menace.
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Post by CkRtech on Jun 11, 2006 1:44:02 GMT -5
It looks to me like the more of an X-Men fan you were before seeing this film, the less you liked it.
Count me as an exception - I took it for what it was & wasn't looking for a good adaptation of the phoenix saga (or anything else for that matter).
Now...can I do that for the Transformers film? Time will tell.
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Post by metafeather on Jun 12, 2006 17:45:15 GMT -5
see i have to disagree again. I am a die hard x-men fanatic(to the point i had an X tattooed on my leg that has thus been covered up do to peronal reasons) and i thought the movie fit the x-men well, or atleast how i view the x-men. in my opinion the X-men is about prejudice first and formost and this movie was full of it. Secondly the x-men comics follow a HUGH cast of characters each with there own little things going on and this one seemed to get that too. i dont know it may be just me but i though this movie was Xcellent and so did most of the local comic book fanatics that i know. It seems that if our a fan the movie is either good or bad considering how you view the x-men lines.
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Post by Jo'Roq on Jun 12, 2006 18:14:16 GMT -5
It's kinda of like if you took the Characters, and threw them in a fragmented story, that was very far removed from ... the comics. The X-Men movies have never tried to be the comics, and never presented themselves as any more related to the comics other than "based on the characters created by ...". Who were the original comic X-Men? Cyclops, Marvel Girl (Jean Grey), Angel, Iceman, and Beast (without the blue fur). Who were the original movie X-Men? Cyclops, Jean Grey, and Storm, with Wolverine and Rogue along due to circumstances. Iceman is a young student, Angel was never at the school, and Beast was retconned by inference in X3 as having been an early student who graduated before the events of the first movie. One of the biggest criticisms I've heard from the hard-core comic fans is that X3 "messed up" the Phoenix saga. Now, if X3 had tried to do the comic story of Phoenix, there is a lot of new stuff that would have needed sudden introduction cosmic entities and alien cultures. The X movies have always been purely terrestrial (sp?). All characters are humans (whether "normal" or mutant) - there are no aliens, no sentient androids, no one whose powers come only from scientific experimentation or accidents. There is not even any connection with the other Marvel movies - Daredevil, Spiderman, Hulk, Fantastic Four. So how do you suddenly explain the existance of Phoenix? I thought the explanation of a split personality worked well within the estabished movie environment (granted, there were a few rather gaping plot holes).
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Post by metafeather on Jun 13, 2006 8:39:36 GMT -5
well said, and i have to hit on the fact that the movies really do follow alot of the comic story line, the ultimate comics
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