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Post by Destro on Nov 17, 2006 22:21:37 GMT -5
I might try to get a wii this sunday, but you won't see me standing in line overnight like those ps3 crazies. Has anyone here been able to get a ps3, and who's getting a wii?
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Post by Gunman_sr5 on Nov 18, 2006 0:04:23 GMT -5
I will get a Wii some time down the road .
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Post by s.marlinfan on Nov 18, 2006 0:12:22 GMT -5
Sorry I'm not a gammer so not interested.
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Post by Alter_Ego on Nov 18, 2006 0:58:06 GMT -5
"Not I." said the little red hen. Jo' and I are pretty much just PC gamers. And those consoles are outrageously expensive for our budget.
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Post by CkRtech on Nov 18, 2006 1:22:22 GMT -5
I'm getting both, but I don't plan on buying them anytime soon.
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Post by Darthfather2005 on Nov 18, 2006 11:05:22 GMT -5
I'm getting my wife a Wii...she plays way more video games than I do. My games are GTA, Star Wars Battlefrount, and Halo. She's all about Final Fantasy, Zelda, and just about anything else.
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Post by Destro on Nov 19, 2006 16:56:43 GMT -5
No Wii for me today.. I'm hoping to be able to find one some time this week though. I haven't been this anxious for a video game system since the snes/genesis days! This'll be my first home system since the saturn I bought around 6 years ago.
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Post by StrykerX2K on Nov 19, 2006 17:03:30 GMT -5
I may get a Wii. Not sure yet. We already have a 360, so I don't want a PS3. I am more of a Microsoft person than a sony person. Anyway, I didn't want to be the first to get one. I giure I will wait until the hype dies down some. I like the types of games they offer and the fact that the system itself will be cheaper.
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Post by CkRtech on Nov 19, 2006 20:36:06 GMT -5
No Wii for me today.. I'm hoping to be able to find one some time this week though. I haven't been this anxious for a video game system since the snes/genesis days! This'll be my first home system since the saturn I bought around 6 years ago. Really? Why? To me, there really haven't been any game consoles that have created great anticipation for me since the Super Nintendo. I guess it is because video game consoles have been a part of our culture for so long now, the next generation doesn't really mean as much.
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Post by Destro on Nov 19, 2006 21:13:09 GMT -5
No Wii for me today.. I'm hoping to be able to find one some time this week though. I haven't been this anxious for a video game system since the snes/genesis days! This'll be my first home system since the saturn I bought around 6 years ago. Really? Why? To me, there really haven't been any game consoles that have created great anticipation for me since the Super Nintendo. I guess it is because video game consoles have been a part of our culture for so long now, the next generation doesn't really mean as much. Because, imo, the wii, along w/ the ds, are the only two systems w/ any real innovation. Sure graphics and sound are getting better and better (more so for the ps3 and 360 obviously), but the gameplay seems to be the same-old same-old. I'm really looking forward to playing games w/ the nunchuk and wiimote; the experience just seems more interesting and involving. Plus I want to play old nes, snes and genesis games on it...and the fact I can actually afford it doesn't hurt either.
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Post by CkRtech on Nov 19, 2006 21:49:19 GMT -5
See....I own a Gamecube & the thing about the Wii that irks me is that I am essentially buying a Gamecube again...there is nothing really innovative about the Wii at all. Nintendo is using more external peripherals to sell their new console. They could have released these new controllers for the Gamecube and everything would have been fine. Many people think they are saving money because they are spending less than they would on a PS3 or 360, but I laugh because they are essentially buying a Gamecube again.
On the PS3 side of things, it has one of the most expensive pricetags in quite some time. The only thing that justifies it (and truth be told makes it "a steal of a deal") is bluray playback. However if you don't need bluray playback right now, why not just wait and buy the console a year or so down the line when it becomes cheaper?
Then you have the 360. A console that while also playing to the new graphics/sound market, has a very limited selection of games a year after its release. There are some better games coming out this month and through the holidays, but the general library should be a lot better by this point. That's kinda sad.
So there is nothing that really has me enthused about the latest gaming consoles right now. I think the market has reached the point (and reached it about 10 years ago) where it is so diverse, there will really never be anything released that will "knock your socks off" like some consoles did as we progressed through the 1980s and 1990s.
Btw Destro - the word "innovation" is not the word you are looking for as much as "gimmick" was the word you are looking for.
The Nintendo DS wasn't innovative at all in regard to gameplay - it was simply the video game industry finally acknowledging that games didn't have to be based on the latest and great hardware tricks in order to be good - Something that I was crying in frustration when Nintendo released the abomination known as Mario 64 in 1996. What's wrong with the side scroller? Thanks to the DS, they finally brought it back. Took 10 years! But at least they brought it back.
The DS used the dual screen and stylus to be innovative, and the games for the portable work.
But really - it is still about the games. It should always be about the games and not the hardware, and that is something that all game console makers will not really acknowledge because they know they need - something - some sort of gimmick in order to sell the new stuff.
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Post by Destro on Nov 19, 2006 22:04:42 GMT -5
See....I own a Gamecube & the thing about the Wii that irks me is that I am essentially buying a Gamecube again...there is nothing really innovative about the Wii at all. Nintendo is using more external peripherals to sell their new console. They could have released these new controllers for the Gamecube and everything would have been fine. Many people think they are saving money because they are spending less than they would on a PS3 or 360, but I laugh because they are essentially buying a Gamecube again. Eh, I don't have a gc so it doesn't bother me; if the gc would've played all the old games I might've bought one. I do disagree about innovation; the motion-activated controllers haven't been done before, as far as I know.. Yea, I've thought the same thing. Just sony's way of getting their foot in the door for their new dvd players/discs. It's a bit of both imo. Yea, that's what I meant in regards to the ds. Too bad sony and ms can't figure that out: better graphics and sound don't by themselves a better system make. That's why I've always backed nintendo; gameplay and fun (through gameplay and great accessories, ie, ds stylus, wiimote, etc.) over all else. For the most part I agree that it should be about the games, but sometimes a new way to play them is really great; I love ddr, the ds dual screen and stylus, and I'm hoping to love the nunchuck and wiimote. They just seem to get you in the game more than just pounding buttons can.
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Post by Darthfather2005 on Nov 19, 2006 22:12:24 GMT -5
Ckrtech, I dissagree with you. I think the Wii is very innovative, and very cool for alot of people. You will be able to download almost any of the older Nintendo, sega, genisis, and atri games prior to the Gamecude. There are alot of people out there that do not like PC gaming. They grew up with console gaming, and to have the ability to play just about any game they grew up with is huge. This also makes it very family friendly, kids, parents, and even Grandma can play the older games, all in one system. There is new technology with the Nunchuk like Destro said, which keeps all the kids happy, so yeah innovative is the right word for it.
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Post by Devastator_2000 on Nov 19, 2006 22:20:35 GMT -5
Unless I get one heck of a deal down the road, I will not be getting the PS3. Since most of the games that I really want to play for the Xbox 360 can be had on the PC, I will pass on that system as well. But I will most likely get a Wii in the next 6 months to a year. It is the only way to get my Mario, Zelda, Star Fox, Metroid - You get the idea - fix.
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Post by Jo'Roq on Nov 19, 2006 23:14:51 GMT -5
This also makes it very family friendly, kids, parents, and even Grandma can play the older games, all in one system. There is new technology with the Nunchuk like Destro said, which keeps all the kids happy, so yeah innovative is the right word for it. The "Nunchuk" kills the family friendly side of it - try teaching Grandma and a 4-year old how to use it without putting anyone's eyes out! Whatever happened to a simple pad controller? I haven't liked any new console controllers since they decided players needed more than a d-pad, start, select, and six (on the same surface) action buttons. Maybe the PS4, Wii 2, and Xbox 720 will all come with full body suits with about 40 buttons and optional motion capture .....
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Post by Destro on Nov 19, 2006 23:41:54 GMT -5
Can the classic controller be used if you don't want to use the nunchuk?
I don't think it "kills" the family-friendly aspect; you might need to be a bit more careful, but at least the kid'll actually be getting exercise while playing a video game.
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Post by Gunman_sr5 on Nov 20, 2006 0:10:36 GMT -5
There is a controller for the classic games that will be sold separately.
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Post by CkRtech on Nov 20, 2006 0:13:59 GMT -5
Yea, that's what I meant in regards to the ds. Too bad sony and ms can't figure that out: better graphics and sound don't by themselves a better system make. That's why I've always backed nintendo; gameplay and fun (through gameplay and great accessories, ie, ds stylus, wiimote, etc.) over all else. I don't quite understand this line of reasoning. What do you mean that Sony and MS can't figure it out? Better graphics and sound DO make a better system. The games just happen to go along with the hardware. Why release a new system if it isn't going to have some sort of new thing to offer that the previous ones have not? Sony and MS go the graphics and sound route. Nintendo goes the controller route. The games and their gameplay should be independent (to a certain degree) from the hardware on which they are played. If a game is fun, then the hardware doesn't really matter. It doesn't take super graphics or a new fangled controller to "make it fun." No thanks! I don't plan on buying all of my games.....AGAIN just to play them on the Wii. You can already do this for free on the PC if you want. I have a box hooked up to my TV so I can play the games through emulation. The same thing can be done on the PC. Or....I can even dig out the old games and old console in order to play them on the TV if I wish. $5 for NES. $8 for SNES. $10 for N64. If you are going to download a large sum of old games, be my guest. If you pick 5 of your favorites from each console, you are over $100. This idea to pay for downloadable content isn't innovative. It has already been done by Microsoft, and this move is very well..."Microsoft" of Nintendo. ---- Dev made a point by stating the games he plays. If you play those types of games, then you buy that console. I am all over the board, so I go after everything. Probably the single most line of gaming for me is Final Fantasy...which at this point guarantees that I will buy a PS3 at some point.
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Post by Destro on Nov 20, 2006 0:17:12 GMT -5
There is a controller for the classic games that will be sold separately. I know that, I just didn't know if it could be used on wii games instead of using the wiimote and nunchuk.
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Post by CkRtech on Nov 20, 2006 0:25:35 GMT -5
The classic controller is required for playing the classic games and is sold separately (as gunman said). The nunchuk and wiimote cannot be used for the classic games.
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