Post by Destro on Mar 21, 2006 0:06:11 GMT -5
ckrtech said:
"bomb horribly" is just more fanboyism at work. Kids wouldn't care. So long as they can see the toys that match the TV show, they are going to want the toys so they can play with them.
I beg to differ; kids would see these as boring bricks, which is many of them. What really helped g1 was the toon, and the fact that, as I said, for their time, they were good. Today's toys are more kid-friendly and fun to play with. Let me also add that the three latest series (armada, energon, cybertron) have sold quite well w/o the backing of a great (or in some cases, even mediocre) cartoon.
I am just as confused. Cyberton has created some of the worst transformers I have ever seen. The worst. I mean, many of them are right up there with G2. It is possible that Energon might rank up there with them, but that is opinion from someone else around here that might or might not want to come out of the woodwork...
You still haven't shown me these horrible tfs. Are there any you like? What about optimus? Imo, after mp/anniv prime, he's the best optimus toy there is.
It's weird. Things really come and go. I have no idea how often the designers at Hasbro/Takara are "changed out." Many times, it is obvious that they have cut the budget on the toys themselves due to how they are made.
How's that? How can you even attempt to prove that unless you work for hasbro? Considering how well they're selling (tfs is hasbro's number one line I believe), I think hasbro would increase the budget for tfs.
I just think we are in one of those periods where things are down. I believe the Hasbro has actually evaluated their current scenario & possibly found this to be true. This might be one reason to shake things up quite a bit or take time off. Who knows what direction things go? I suppose that Astrotrain looks kinda neat, but what else are they going to do? We'll have to wait and see.
From the numbers I've seen and the stores I've been to, tfs are doing just fine. This whole "neo-g1" concept is a fan service, nothing more, nothing less; it's a filler line before the movie toys are released.
I didn't want a big discussion on all of this, but this gives an idea of where I am coming from & that it is not just an idea of "this is not as good as G1."
You made light of my "every" comment, yet you are considered to be included in this bunch. Look back at the front of the thread. No sooner did I make a negative comment about a "current transformer" then I have to deal with ribbing of it being "better" than some G1 figure. Why? This brings about my question (although reworded) again -
Why do fans of the new stuff have to "justify coolness" by comparing it to G1 and mentioning how much better it is? This is a weakness. If person A has to justify to person B that their item is better than the item person A is interested in, then this is evidence to me that person A is actually insecure in what they own & what their own opinion is.
So if somebody want to express their opinion on Cyberton & its toys, do it - just do it without having to compare it to G1. It has become very cliche and insulting at times. (Thus explaining an emotional reaction from me)
You made light of my "every" comment, yet you are considered to be included in this bunch. Look back at the front of the thread. No sooner did I make a negative comment about a "current transformer" then I have to deal with ribbing of it being "better" than some G1 figure. Why? This brings about my question (although reworded) again -
Why do fans of the new stuff have to "justify coolness" by comparing it to G1 and mentioning how much better it is? This is a weakness. If person A has to justify to person B that their item is better than the item person A is interested in, then this is evidence to me that person A is actually insecure in what they own & what their own opinion is.
So if somebody want to express their opinion on Cyberton & its toys, do it - just do it without having to compare it to G1. It has become very cliche and insulting at times. (Thus explaining an emotional reaction from me)
Yea, I did jump on ya there, but I guess it's just my reaction bc you always insult every new toy (to be fair, you did ask me if I was serious about liking sw, so, in a way, you insulted me first ) Not to say that I should have done it, but I suppose I feel the need to defend it. I brought up g1 bc you're always defending it and I thought that was a worthy comparison. I still shouldn't have jumped you, and for that I apologize.
However, you also have attempted to prove that g1 is better than cybertron in this and other threads, so, in a way I think we're in the same boat.
Also, where do you see all this g1 hatred? I don't see it on any board I visit; the only g1 bashing occurs against the hardcore "gee-woners".
I don't feel the need to compare cybertron to anything, it works the other way around as well (menasor thread, anyone? ).