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Post by Gunman_sr5 on Jan 29, 2005 12:05:08 GMT -5
gen1fan at 2005 boards posted this.
Hello ,
I have hear some you talk about why walmart will no longer carry Alternators and the Universe. Well I talk to my sister -in-law . She works for walmart as a department magner. What going on is hasbro want the toys to be sold at their price and walmart is saying no we are going to sell them at a lower price to take all the other stores customers. Hasbro can not make walmart sell the toys at Hasbro retaint price. Hasbor can not sue , all they can do is stop selling the toys to walmart, toys are not the only thing walmart doing that on , The new i-pod from micsoft and some new sony hd tv. Are all so going to get pulled from walmart shelfs. Walmart is cutting their own thoats. Oh by the way she hear from her area manger that hasbor may pull all the Energon toys here soon. Walmart will not be able to sell any tf line every. Just thought I let you all know
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Post by Jo'Roq on Jan 29, 2005 13:13:29 GMT -5
(After decoding the spelling and grammar ....) Bummer. I liked being able to find Alts at Walmart - much cheaper (except for the few cents difference with Target).
Walmart may be "cutting their own throats", but Hasbro is taking a huge gamble by considering removing all TF lines from what is possibly the largest and most popular national chain of retailers. Maybe this is one of the opening salvos in the effort to return TRU to dominance?
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Post by CkRtech on Jan 29, 2005 16:44:06 GMT -5
Thank the Lord. Anything to bring Walmart down to earth. Maybe instead of TRU exclusives, KB exclusives, etc....we will just start seeing "non-Walmart exclusives." Hahahaha. The way things were going, I was expecting them to just go ahead and start putting stickers on all the toys that said "Only available at Walmart!"
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Post by DarkConvoy on Jan 29, 2005 18:19:35 GMT -5
I don't get this Why are people complaining cause they are trying to give us cheaper Prices. Hmmm....... Isn't that a good thing. I thought it was. Heck the reason I stop going to target and tru and Kaybee were because of their prices. Heck when we lost Kmart here Target increased all their prices. I would rather pay the cheaper prices at Walmart any day as it leaves me more money to buy more transformers. Why should I line Targets Hasbros and others pockets more because they want to charge more than Walmart. And why should Hasbro care they are getting what they want for the Toys let Walmart sell them for what they Want. Its Called smart business. Think about it I go in and Buy a transformer at a lower Price and then figure out I have enough for 2 so I buy another one thus Impulse buy and More sales. If I go to target and Buy one at a higher price I don't have enough for 2 so I just buy the one thus low sales. Hasbro needs to wake up and see that the Toys they are putting out now just ain't worth what they want to believe they are worth. America in general wants the best deal not to pay the "Suggested" Retail Price. For Example of this look at the reissues at TRU they were there forever till they started lowering the Prices on them. Now they are moving. Hasbro needs to see that it cannot control everything like it wants too and accept the fact that Walmart sells Product due to their lower prices. And we as fans and Buyers need to Take a stand. We take stuff like this and just say oh well let me go pay.lalalla I just don't get it was like when 3H jipped all the people on their stuff people actually defended them. When People did say something about 3H People put them down and basically called them suckers. We need to tell these companies that we are a force to reckon with we are their consumers we give them business. why should we pay what they consider good to them. Good for Walmart for trying to give us better prices I say.
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Post by Jo'Roq on Jan 29, 2005 19:13:41 GMT -5
What? Hasbro CAN'T control everything? The world is ending!
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Post by s.marlinfan on Jan 29, 2005 22:03:34 GMT -5
Here is for a long post. Hhuuummm. ummmmm. now Well this will all work out with our capitolistic system. Where the consumer utlimatly determins the out come of this. Because the buyer is always more important than the seller. Now adays it has become popular to be anti-Wal Mart. I for one am not one that goes with the crowd. Who sticks thier finger in the wind and which ever way it blow, then go that way. I for one do like Wal Mart. I have spent alot of $ there over the years. Because they have the best prices. It is true that Wal Mart is brutial on distributiors and manufactuors. It's basicly Wal Mart says to a manufatuor and distributior we want product X amout of door knobs(for example), we want them at this store and we want them when we need them. So as to not have huge amouts of stock in the back. If the door knob manufactuor want's to sell thier product in the worlds biggest retail store then they have to do what ever it takes to get it there on Wal Marts demands. Because if they can't then Wal Mart will get their door knobs from some on that can at the price they want. But it is the buyer who determins this by buying a door knob at Wal Mart instead of Target at a higher price. But with Wal Mart being so hard on the manufactors and distributiors it brings lower prices to the consumer. This helps out all customers especialy lower income earners and familys. This helps out peoples buying power. For me for example now that the prices of Star Wars figures has gone up. Which at Target now sells for $6.99 and Wal Mart sells for $5.88. I will buy them from Wal Mart. Because I want to get the best price for my money. Unless money is no object to you then everyone wants the cheapest price. For me $6.99 is a breaking point form me buying a standard Star Wars figure at retail. But I still feel $5.88 is reasonable. This I am sure will lead Wal Mart to sell more SW figs this year than Target. Thus competition in the free markent place is chosen by the consumer. It is not Wal Mart's place to be easy on a manufactuor or distributor, or even the mom and pops stores. It is a hard fact to swallow but if others can not compete with Wal Mart it is not Wal Marts fault. Until some one comes along and has a better business plan than Wal Mart. Then they will stay the king of retail. It goes back to the golden rule, "He who has the most gold rules" and right now that is Wal Mart. So in the end it is us who will decide this. Because the buyer is always more important than the seller. Because for me I'll contninue to buy from Wal Mart because they have the best prices. Maybe Wal Mart should pay me now for being a sales man!
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Post by CkRtech on Jan 29, 2005 23:12:13 GMT -5
If walmart eventually rubs out the other retailers who would sell those toys, then Walmart could actually raise their prices to whatever high retail price they want.
Competition is always a good thing.
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Post by DarkConvoy on Jan 31, 2005 10:38:14 GMT -5
If walmart eventually rubs out the other retailers who would sell those toys, then Walmart could actually raise their prices to whatever high retail price they want. Competition is always a good thing. I agree Competition is good. But it works both ways if walmart were to lose the line what competition would Target an Tru have? As it is Their prices are still higher with the competition of Walmart. what would stop them from going higher when they know they are the only ones to have them. Experience shows bad things. When we lost Kmart several changes happened at Target. Prices went up across the Board 10% on average and their pricematch thing went out the window. So we need Walmart and target to be fighting each other in prices as that leaves us the buyer the winner in the end.
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Post by Destro on Jan 31, 2005 17:32:07 GMT -5
The way I understand it, stores like wm, target, and kmart don't make much money off toy sales, esp. smaller toys like tfs. These toys are sold at wm, etc., to lure the customer into the store, so maybe they'll buy other stuff. If kids want a toy, and their parents see wm has it cheapest, they'll buy the toy there and buy other stuff while they are there. That's why I don't think target or kmart would raise their prices much, if at all, if wm stops carrying certain hasbro toys; most toys are used to get you in the door.
You also have to take into account online sales, which are growing every year; if stores can't get you in the door, they won't sell much, and toys is a good way to get you in the door (for obvious reasons for us collectors, but also for parents). I realize you can buy from the stores' websites, but they still sell mainly from the physical store. Besides, if wm stops carrying them, tru, target and, to a much lesser extent kmart, will still compete with each other.
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